…ined to mindfulness, right? So the the idea for for folks maybe not not as familiar with the idea that you know if you practice a form of mindfulness meditation, you very quickly you're almost blown away at the torrent of thoughts that exist in your brain and how you can't turn them off. So if you sit there a…

…e. Um, so say a little bit more about that. Again, for the for the individual who has not practiced this highly uncomfortable exercise of mindfulness meditation, help people understand what you mean about the distinction between thoughts and thinking. It is important. I think it's uniquely important when we t…

…ly through mindfulness. We've talked repeatedly about the space between stimulus and response. [101:24] between stimulus and response. Is mindfulness meditation as a formal practice a part of this therapy with anxiety? anxiety? Absolutely. So I don't typically treat I I teach breath work or meditation per se,…